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Offline Dyersburg Weather

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Re: Winter 2022-2023
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2022, 11:15:40 AM »


Only 4 examples since 1900 of a 3rd La Niña years. Take your pick.
Looks to be 50/50. Lets take 1975-76 and hope for a 1977 repeat next year.

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Re: Winter 2022-2023
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2022, 11:31:27 AM »
Well going by that and only that its safe to say no torch. A little above could still be cold with snow with just a few warmer or lots of slightly above and big deep colds. And 1 of the 4 show a super cold. I like them odds tbh.

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Re: Winter 2022-2023
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2022, 01:36:12 PM »


Only 4 examples since 1900 of a 3rd La Niña years. Take your pick.

This sorta confirms what I am increasingly believing to be true: the ENSO state has very little use as a predictor of what winter weather will be like in the continental 48.
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Re: Winter 2022-2023
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2022, 02:10:29 PM »
Don’t know anyone brings up winters of 80s or earlier , especially early 1900s … winters were just way colder back then …. Thanks to climate change
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Re: Winter 2022-2023
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2022, 02:14:50 PM »
Don’t know anyone brings up winters of 80s or earlier , especially early 1900s … winters were just way colder back then …. Thanks to climate change

Were they now?
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Re: Winter 2022-2023
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2022, 02:42:39 PM »
Were they now?

Warmest winter on record is 1877-78. **** pioneers emitting all that carbon.
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Re: Winter 2022-2023
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2022, 02:47:08 PM »
BRING ON SEVERE WEATHER SEASON..

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Re: Winter 2022-2023
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2022, 06:11:26 PM »
Warmest winter on record is 1877-78. **** pioneers emitting all that carbon.

I fully believe in climate change and the trends are obviously a bit warmer, but the latter part of the 1800s plus some of the winters of the 1920s and 1930s were full blown clunkers.     

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Re: Winter 2022-2023
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2022, 06:18:52 PM »
At Nashville during the super La-Nina winter of 1889-1890 (which also was quite active severe weather-wise as well).

The temperature never dropped at or below freezing from Dec 3rd to January 14th

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Re: Winter 2022-2023
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2022, 06:59:33 PM »
I fully believe in climate change and the trends are obviously a bit warmer, but the latter part of the 1800s plus some of the winters of the 1920s and 1930s were full blown clunkers.   

It's a problem of those who use climate change as a crutch to explain every single weather event or phenomenon...it usually falls flat on its face. I read a news story yesterday that touted Hurricane Fiona as a result of climate change. Seriously? One of the quietest Atlantic hurricane seasons on record and now we actually have a hurricane and you're going to pin it on climate change?  ::doh:: I'm not a climate change denier by any stretch of the imagination but it gets old.
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Re: Winter 2022-2023
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2022, 08:27:20 PM »
It's a problem of those who use climate change as a crutch to explain every single weather event or phenomenon...it usually falls flat on its face. I read a news story yesterday that touted Hurricane Fiona as a result of climate change. Seriously? One of the quietest Atlantic hurricane seasons on record and now we actually have a hurricane and you're going to pin it on climate change?  ::doh:: I'm not a climate change denier by any stretch of the imagination but it gets old.

It's intentionally misleading just for clickbait. It drives me absolutely crazy when I see something online that describes a weather event as "climate-change driven."

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Re: Winter 2022-2023
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2022, 08:30:48 PM »
I have heard the polar vortex was created by climate change. Wonder if flat earth was created by climate change also.  🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

I will say I do believe mankind has created issues with some climate change but not the hyperbole many use to make money off of.
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Re: Winter 2022-2023
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2022, 08:37:13 PM »
Warmest winter on record is 1877-78. **** pioneers emitting all that carbon.

We have warmed since the Industrial Age, and a little more arguably it has been influenced by anthropogenic forcing as our insolation budget has been offset by higher atmospheric concentrations of gases that absorb a greater amount of the sun's energy. Still, I don't like it when those in the weather community purport that we never experienced hot summers or unusually mild winters since we've been keeping records. The articles I was coming across this summer were ludicrous. "Unprecedented" heat in the Plains? Hardly. Conversely, it would be accurate to say the Pacific NW heat wave in which Lytton, BC reached 121 F last year was unprecedented in recent human history. Calling something unprecedented requires qualifiers for that statement. Again... it's something that people in journalism can use for easy clicks, and part of the problem is that they are not meteorologists and don't understand the difference between weather and climate. If it snows a lot, conservative pundits call climate change a hoax, and when we have a hot summer, liberal pundits exaggerate the truth and fail to communicate to their viewers what climate actually is.

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Re: Winter 2022-2023
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2022, 08:39:36 PM »
I have heard the polar vortex was created by climate change. Wonder if flat earth was created by climate change also.  🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

I will say I do believe mankind has created issues with some climate change but not the hyperbole many use to make money off of.

It would be news to some of these people that the formidable polar vortex always exists. Thanks to the press, most people now associate it with a dire emergency.

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Re: Winter 2022-2023
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2022, 09:13:02 PM »
Cycles…cycles…cycles.  Weather goes in cycles and always will. 

 

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