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Re: Summer (Cancel) 2018
« Reply #75 on: June 18, 2018, 07:01:37 PM »
winter cancel already .... what that means ...lol

That’s a weak nino pattern that looks reminiscent of 2002-03 and 2009-10. The warmest waters are in the central pacific rather than off the South American coast. It usually leads to a consistently cold pattern with an active storm pattern in marginal cold air to support a winter storm track somewhere across the region.

The JMA in June is about like trying to pinpoint a land falling hurricane when it’s 1000 miles away. It tried to predict the same Nino last year but we ended up with a weak to moderate Nina. I think this time the weak to moderate Nino has more staying power.

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Re: Summer (Cancel) 2018
« Reply #76 on: June 19, 2018, 04:49:49 AM »
Considering the upcoming heat and humidity, I think we can take the "cancel" off this thread.  Summer's here, baby. 

Good to see rain chances slowly increasing for next week.  We started with 20-30%, and now after Sunday there are 40-50% chances across the board here in the foothills.  A cooling late afternoon thunderstorm would be welcome today, but not likely outside the mountains.
We're not even past the solstice - we are wasting all this heat early.  It's so sad.

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Re: Summer (Cancel) 2018
« Reply #77 on: June 19, 2018, 07:54:31 AM »
We're not even past the solstice - we are wasting all this heat early.  It's so sad.

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Re: Summer (Cancel) 2018
« Reply #78 on: June 19, 2018, 12:59:53 PM »
We're not even past the solstice - we are wasting all this heat early.  It's so sad.

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Re: Summer (Cancel) 2018
« Reply #79 on: June 19, 2018, 02:18:40 PM »
Yeah true. But at least it ain't in September. 90s in September are the worst
Lol what? No way. May june july is worse because usually more humid. Like august and September are always hot but like dry hot and its on the tail end of summer. Hot june just sucks because we have so much more to go through.
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Re: Summer (Cancel) 2018
« Reply #80 on: June 19, 2018, 05:26:18 PM »
Lol what? No way. May june july is worse because usually more humid. Like august and September are always hot but like dry hot and its on the tail end of summer. Hot june just sucks because we have so much more to go through.

September is an ugly reminder that it's supposed to be fall soon, but it ain't even close.

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Re: Summer (Cancel) 2018
« Reply #81 on: June 20, 2018, 01:11:30 PM »
Dear Atlanta (aka "HOT-lanta),

Please change your nickname- those much further up the list scoff at your level of suffering...

Also- two quick PSAs- don't ever, ever, ever move to Texas- even if you get a 7 figure job offer, the heat will just kill you and please remember that a "dry" heat is actually really awful if it's 114 in the full sun (that time I went to Vegas in July). 


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We just released our new Sperling Heat Index, and I’m pretty excited about it.  It not only uses the average summer high temperature, but also includes the nighttime low temperature and dew point (a measure of humidity).

Of the 50 largest metro areas in the United States, Phoenix, Las Vegas, and Houston have the hottest summers, and Seattle, San Francisco, and Portland have the coolest.

Click here to get the all the supporting data in a spreadsheet, including high temperatures, nighttime temperatures, dew point and relative humidity.

Our Sizzling Cities ranking is certainly about comfort, but it’s also about safety.  For residents of all ages, extreme hot weather can be fatal.  Our Heat Index provides a way to predict how uncomfortable, and dangerous, summer in a city is likely to be.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, over 650 people die annually from heat-related causes.  In developing the new heat index, my research team examined past patterns of these deaths to hone the accuracy of our model.

Besides the obvious risk to the ill and elderly, young healthy adults and teens can also die because they are unaware of the risk of exercising in hot, humid weather.  High humidity can be especially deadly because it prevents sweat from evaporating and cooling the body.

The Sperling’s Heat Index is unique in that it includes the nighttime low temperature in the calculation.  According to experts, a lack of nighttime cooling can be more dangerous than an extreme daytime temperature. “Nighttime heat is especially bad,” said Eli Jacks, chief of fire and public weather services at the National Weather Service, “because your body never has a chance to recover.”

Because of the humidity, the heat in Houston feels nearly as extreme as that in Las Vegas, even though Houston has an average July high temperature over ten degrees cooler.  After the desert metros of Phoenix and Las Vegas, the nation’s top “hotspots” are found around the Gulf of Mexico, in the states of Texas, Florida, and Louisiana.

At the other end of the Sizzling Cities rankings are the Chill Cities, where residents can expect to enjoy a more comfortable summer than the rest of the nation.  As one might expect, Seattle, San Francisco and Portland are the three most comfortable places to spend the summer, followed by Denver, San Jose, and Buffalo.  These and other cool summer spots have a moderate high summer temperature, with cool evenings, and humidity that rarely becomes uncomfortable.

Here’s the full list of the 50 largest metro areas, ranked by the new heat index.
Click here to get the all the supporting data in a spreadsheet, including high temperatures, nighttime temperatures, dew point and relative humidity.

Rank   Metro   Heat Index
1   Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ   97.7
2   Las Vegas-Paradise, NV   94.4
3   Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX   92.4
4   Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX   92.3
5   Austin-Round Rock, TX   92.2
6   San Antonio, TX   92.1
7   Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL   92.0
8   New Orleans-Metairie-Kenner, LA   91.7
9   Orlando-Kissimmee, FL   91.6
10   Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL   91.5
11   Jacksonville, FL   90.8
12   Oklahoma City, OK   90.5
13   Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA   90.3
14   Memphis, TN-MS-AR   89.3

15   Birmingham-Hoover, AL   88.4
16   Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, NC-SC   87.8
17   Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC   87.5
18   Raleigh-Cary, NC   87.4
19   Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA   86.9
20   Richmond, VA   86.6
21   Kansas City, MO-KS   86.4
22   St. Louis, MO-IL   86.1
23   Nashville-Davidson–Murfreesboro–Franklin, TN   85.9

24   Baltimore-Towson, MD   85.6
25   Louisville/Jefferson County, KY-IN   84.7
26   Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV   84.4
27   Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD   83.6
28   Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN   83.0
29   Indianapolis-Carmel, IN   82.0
30   Columbus, OH   81.6
31   New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA   81.5
32   Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA   81.1
33   Chicago-Naperville-Joliet, IL-IN-WI   80.8
34   San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA   80.3
35   Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH   80.0
36   Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT   79.9
37   Sacramento–Arden-Arcade–Roseville, CA   79.8
38   Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI   79.7
39   Providence-New Bedford-Fall River, RI-MA   79.5
40   Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH   79.1
41   Pittsburgh, PA   79.0
42   Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI   79.0
43   Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis, WI   78.6
44   Salt Lake City, UT   77.7
45   Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY   77.6
46   San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA   76.2
47   Denver-Aurora, CO   74.1
48   San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA   73.6
49   Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton, OR-WA   72.6
50   Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA   70.3

http://www.bertsperling.com/2013/07/02/sizzling-cities-ranked-our-new-heat-index/


Also, Tennessee and nearby metro areas that are NOT in the Top 50 largest in the U.S.:

Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway, AR   699,757   89.6
Jonesboro, AR   121,026   89.1
Jackson, TN   115,425   87.9
Huntsville, AL   417,593   87.6
Decatur, AL   153,829   87.5
Clarksville, TN-KY   273,949   87.0
Dalton, GA   142,227   86.8
Knoxville, TN   698,030   85.0
Chattanooga, TN-GA   528,143   84.8
Cleveland, TN   115,788   84.6
Morristown, TN   136,608   83.8
Kingsport-Bristol-Bristol, TN-VA   309,544   82.7
Johnson City, TN   198,716   82.5
Asheville, NC   424,858   80.3
Blacksburg-Christiansburg-Radford, VA   162,958   78.7
« Last Edit: June 20, 2018, 01:48:27 PM by mempho »


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In the middle of the freezing rain

Snow up high
Won't you pour down over me
Yeah, I got some accretion
But I'm as blue as a boy can be

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Re: Summer (Cancel) 2018
« Reply #82 on: June 20, 2018, 08:07:56 PM »
That’s very interesting data, but I can’t figure out why Huntsville is so much worse than Chattanooga on paper. They should be very similar.
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Re: Summer (Cancel) 2018
« Reply #83 on: June 21, 2018, 08:17:55 AM »
That’s very interesting data, but I can’t figure out why Huntsville is so much worse than Chattanooga on paper. They should be very similar.

Also, that Knoxville was actually ever so slightly worse than Chatty (85.0 vs 84.8 ). Chattanooga, for the most part, always runs a degree or three hotter than Knoxville.  Could Knoxville have slightly higher dewpoints/humidity in conjunction with the nearby forested mountains? 
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Re: Summer (Cancel) 2018
« Reply #84 on: June 21, 2018, 08:50:00 AM »
Also, that Knoxville was actually ever so slightly worse than Chatty (85.0 vs 84.8 ). Chattanooga, for the most part, always runs a degree or three hotter than Knoxville.  Could Knoxville have slightly higher dewpoints/humidity in conjunction with the nearby forested mountains?
I also wonder if fog or cloud cover is more common here. Maybe that gets factored in somehow.
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Re: Summer (Cancel) 2018
« Reply #85 on: June 21, 2018, 11:44:46 AM »
Dear Atlanta (aka "HOT-lanta),

Please change your nickname- those much further up the list scoff at your level of suffering...

Also- two quick PSAs- don't ever, ever, ever move to Texas- even if you get a 7 figure job offer, the heat will just kill you and please remember that a "dry" heat is actually really awful if it's 114 in the full sun (that time I went to Vegas in July). 


http://www.bertsperling.com/2013/07/02/sizzling-cities-ranked-our-new-heat-index/


Also, Tennessee and nearby metro areas that are NOT in the Top 50 largest in the U.S.:

Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway, AR699,75789.6
Jonesboro, AR121,02689.1
Jackson, TN115,42587.9
Huntsville, AL417,59387.6
Decatur, AL153,82987.5
Clarksville, TN-KY273,94987.0
Dalton, GA142,22786.8
Knoxville, TN698,03085.0
Chattanooga, TN-GA528,14384.8
Cleveland, TN115,78884.6
Morristown, TN136,60883.8
Kingsport-Bristol-Bristol, TN-VA309,54482.7
Johnson City, TN198,71682.5
Asheville, NC424,85880.3
Blacksburg-Christiansburg-Radford, VA162,95878.7

Little Rock should at least crack the top ten. It’s usually warmer than Memphis. It’s all time high at 114 is higher than Dallas.

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Re: Summer (Cancel) 2018
« Reply #86 on: June 21, 2018, 12:48:16 PM »
Seeing some hints on Twitter that long range Euro is starting to show quite the heat dome over our area. Please be wrong.  ::hot::

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Re: Summer (Cancel) 2018
« Reply #87 on: June 21, 2018, 02:49:39 PM »
That’s very interesting data, but I can’t figure out why Huntsville is so much worse than Chattanooga on paper. They should be very similar.

Also, that Knoxville was actually ever so slightly worse than Chatty (85.0 vs 84.8 ). Chattanooga, for the most part, always runs a degree or three hotter than Knoxville.  Could Knoxville have slightly higher dewpoints/humidity in conjunction with the nearby forested mountains? 

Also, that Knoxville was actually ever so slightly worse than Chatty (85.0 vs 84.8 ). Chattanooga, for the most part, always runs a degree or three hotter than Knoxville.  Could Knoxville have slightly higher dewpoints/humidity in conjunction with the nearby forested mountains?
I would guess that topography is likely in the Knoxville/Chattanooga comparison.  With regard to Huntsville, Huntsville is just plain hotter- it's both further south and west (higher average dewpoint and temperature).

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Little Rock should at least crack the top ten. It’s usually warmer than Memphis. It’s all time high at 114 is higher than Dallas.

Little Rock is warmer than Memphis- it's got an 89.6 average compared to Memphis's 89.3.  The ranking was only for the Top 50 metro areas (of which, Little Rock is not).  If Little Rock were a Top 50 metro, it would be ranked just ahead of Memphis at #13.  However, it would likely be much higher since a much more significant UHI would come into play if Little Rock were in the Top 50- likely adding at least a degree or two - perhaps even edging out Tampa for #10.  Personally, I'd still prefer Little Rock over some of the Florida cities simply due to the duration of their warm temperatures. 

Post Merge: June 21, 2018, 02:56:58 PM
Seeing some hints on Twitter that long range Euro is starting to show quite the heat dome over our area. Please be wrong.  ::hot::

This won't likely materialize- we wasted all the heat early.  These models keep showing the flip back to hot and it's always 7 to 10 days away.  We've seen this play out many a time before and we all know how the story goes.  Perhaps if we're lucky, the pattern will reload and we'll get another chance at the heat by the end of July or early August.  Meanwhile, we'll just have to sit and endure the big  ::cold::
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Put on my big snow boots and
I boarded the plane
Touched down in the land of the Delta Blues
In the middle of the freezing rain

Snow up high
Won't you pour down over me
Yeah, I got some accretion
But I'm as blue as a boy can be

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Re: Summer (Cancel) 2018
« Reply #88 on: June 21, 2018, 03:38:35 PM »

Post Merge: June 21, 2018, 02:56:58 PM
This won't likely materialize- we wasted all the heat early.  These models keep showing the flip back to hot and it's always 7 to 10 days away.  We've seen this play out many a time before and we all know how the story goes.  Perhaps if we're lucky, the pattern will reload and we'll get another chance at the heat by the end of July or early August.  Meanwhile, we'll just have to sit and endure the big  ::cold:: .

I get it.  I really do.  ::rofl::

Post Merge: June 21, 2018, 07:21:39 PM
Happy Summer Solstice.  While I love winter weather, summer rules in terms of lighting it up.  In a perfect world, winter could happen with 14 hours of daylight.
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Re: Summer (Cancel) 2018
« Reply #89 on: June 21, 2018, 08:54:00 PM »
Seeing some hints on Twitter that long range Euro is starting to show quite the heat dome over our area. Please be wrong.  ::hot::
bring it... ::yum::
Come on severe wx season...

 

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