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The Southeast Burns: The Great Fires of 2016
« on: November 05, 2016, 09:26:02 AM »
Wow. Just look at this map:
http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/

90% of the fire activity in the country is in the TN Valley and BHM area
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Re: Re: Fall 2016
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2016, 07:48:32 PM »
Fires showing up on satellite...


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Re: Re: Fall 2016
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2016, 11:09:54 PM »
Code red air quality today in Hamilton county due to smoke. That is the first one I can remember in a long time. That fire just south of Polk County is massive. The federal website has not updated, but based on the volume of smoke I saw out there today, things aren't going well. We have multiple small fires on every mountain in the county and a huge major fire in the Cohutta wilderness just to the SE of town. We must get some rain soon.

I am confident enough at this point to proclaim that this will go down as the driest year on record at KCHA. At this point we would need 7 inches of precip before 12/31 to not break that record. In the current pattern that seems impossible. We probably won't reach 30 inches for the year.
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Re: Re: Fall 2016
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2016, 09:26:49 AM »
Seems like these fires aren't getting the media attention that fires out west typically get and should be getting.  That looks and sounds significant.

The media may be distracted on other matters.  Something is apparently going on today... I dunno, an election of some sort?

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Re: Re: Fall 2016
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2016, 09:40:52 AM »
Seems like these fires aren't getting the media attention that fires out west typically get and should be getting.  That looks and sounds significant.

I'm guessing that part of the issue is that our fires are mainly rural and aren't threatening homes the way that you see out west, especially in California.  The smoke issues are really dangerous, though.  We're under a code red air quality alert in Knoxville today and my wife and I are both carrying good dust masks in our car in case we get into heavy smoke or get stuck somewhere and have to be outdoors for an extended period.  I'm afraid we're going to see a spike in ER visits and possibly even hospitalizations from people with preexisting conditions.

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Re: Re: Fall 2016
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2016, 09:52:55 AM »
Picture of the air quality in Chattanooga yesterday morning:

Apparently they considered cancelling school. It was that bad. In other news:
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/33650763/largest-fire-in-georgia-history-continues-to-burn-5000-acres
The Cohutta fire just south of the TN state line is now the largest fire in Georgia history. The smoke plume is immense. I've tried to photograph it, but it just winds up looking like brown overcast clouds.
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Re: Re: Fall 2016
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2016, 09:54:41 AM »
One reason that these fires get significantly less media coverage is that they're much smaller in size (even our largest fires here in the east usually only burn a few hundred acres, whereas fires in the west can be hundreds of thousands of acres). Another is that these fires are totally different animals than the fires out west. There isn't nearly as much risk to life or structures here in the east. Our fires burn primarily in the understory of the forests, unlike out west where the fires are raging beasts that cannot be controlled.

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Re: Re: Fall 2016
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2016, 02:59:08 PM »
The smoke was the worst I've seen it today in Monterey.  I was outside for no more than 15 minutes, and came in and smelled like I had been around a campfire all evening.

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Re: Re: Fall 2016
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2016, 03:35:24 PM »
One reason that these fires get significantly less media coverage is that they're much smaller in size (even our largest fires here in the east usually only burn a few hundred acres, whereas fires in the west can be hundreds of thousands of acres). Another is that these fires are totally different animals than the fires out west. There isn't nearly as much risk to life or structures here in the east. Our fires burn primarily in the understory of the forests, unlike out west where the fires are raging beasts that cannot be controlled.

Apparently this is no longer the case in the larger 1000+ acre fires in this area. Firefighters are reporting burnt up trees. Not just underbrush. We currently have about 1000 acres burning in Hamilton county. The large Cohutta fire in north GA was at 6700 acres this morning, but was expected to rapidly spread today due to low humidity and wind. I read an article today saying that GA forestry expects this fire to continue to burn through at least spring.

EDIT: First evacuations are now happening on Signal Mountain:
http://newschannel9.com/news/local/hamilton-county-sheriffs-evacuating-homes-on-little-bend-road
« Last Edit: November 09, 2016, 08:22:27 PM by dwagner88 »
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Re: Re: Fall 2016
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2016, 06:39:49 PM »
Here's an observation you don't see everyday.

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Re: Re: Fall 2016
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2016, 09:38:14 PM »
State of emergency

http://www.wsmv.com/story/33683916/tn-declares-state-of-emergency-due-to-drought-conditions

53 wild fires burning in E TN.

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Re: Re: Fall 2016
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2016, 09:31:28 AM »
State of emergency

http://www.wsmv.com/story/33683916/tn-declares-state-of-emergency-due-to-drought-conditions

53 wild fires burning in E TN.

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Post Merge: November 11, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
My dad is driving through the mountains from Chattanooga to Greenville today. He called me from Clayton, GA and reported that the smoke was so thick everyone was using their headlights. The rough ridge fire went over 10000 acres yesterday (has doubled in size since wednesday). That area is expected to get 20-30 mph winds tonight. Really not a good situation at all. A photo taken from Parksville lake yesterday of the rough ridge fire:
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Re: Re: Fall 2016
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2016, 03:09:17 PM »
My dad is driving through the mountains from Chattanooga to Greenville today. He called me from Clayton, GA and reported that the smoke was so thick everyone was using their headlights. The rough ridge fire went over 10000 acres yesterday (has doubled in size since wednesday). That area is expected to get 20-30 mph winds tonight. Really not a good situation at all. A photo taken from Parksville lake yesterday of the rough ridge fire:

The smell of smoke is back in Knoxville today and while it isn't as bad as it was earlier in the week I suspect it will worsen over the weekend.  My wife was north of Knoxville in Campbell County today and said it's getting bad again there.  We desperately need a slow-moving, multi-day rain event to settle things down.

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http://wate.com/2016/11/10/tennessee-declares-state-of-emergency-due-to-drought-wildfires/
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Re: Re: Fall 2016
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2016, 08:12:00 PM »
This afternoon's update on rough ridge has it at 13300 acres. It is expanding very rapidly now.

Just for comparison's sake, all of the active fires in east TN right now measure about 10000 acres put together.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2016, 08:32:37 PM by dwagner88 »
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2/20 - 1.5" snow, 0.15" ZR
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Re: Re: Fall 2016
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2016, 06:12:35 PM »
This afternoon's update on rough ridge has it at 13300 acres. It is expanding very rapidly now.

Just for comparison's sake, all of the active fires in east TN right now measure about 10000 acres put together.
Wildfires are beginning to pop up in Northern Davidson County. No rain chances until atleast next weekend. It has been about 2 month since any significant rainfall has occured in Middle and Eastern TN.

 

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