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Offline Cyclonicjunkie

Re: Long range thread
« Reply #420 on: November 24, 2011, 10:56:07 PM »
Ensemble mean for our next winter storm threat next weekend....I hope this one is a miller A  :o

« Last Edit: November 25, 2011, 12:12:19 AM by Cyclonicjunkie »

Offline John1122

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Re: Long range thread
« Reply #421 on: November 25, 2011, 01:17:26 AM »
Well one of our local Christmas parades is next weekend. It's snowed for 3 of the last 4. Hopefully this year makes it 4 of 5.

Offline Cyclonicjunkie

Re: Long range thread
« Reply #422 on: November 26, 2011, 05:56:55 AM »
I keep hearing people... even professionals saying there is no pattern change and this cold shot will be transient because there isnt  NAO blocking. these people have become used to the last two winters and seem to think this one should behave EXACTLY to a tee like the last two. Well guess what it wont happen that way.

The pattern is fixing to change and the warm intrusions that once stopped by on occasion through the fall will be gone after this weekend. Sure there will be pre frontal warmups due to southerly flow from a LPS crossing the conus but for the most part winter wx has become established and longstaying after this weekend.

As you can see the NAO looks to be headed into negative territory with the ensemble forecasts



This is the GFS ensemble 8-10 day mean


That is called an EPO/PNA block in the pacific and that is called a NAO block in the Atlantic.... even though it is an east based block once you get the EPO..PNA and NAO in our favor this is a very cold signal....this will tend to carve out a deep trough over most of the conus and eastern united states.

This will create a cold and stormy pattern here in TN. With the PNA forecast to stay mostly positive and the NAO headed toward negative it is fixing to get really cold and I think there could be a massive arctic intrusion around December the 10th
« Last Edit: November 26, 2011, 06:04:30 AM by Cyclonicjunkie »

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Re: Long range thread
« Reply #423 on: November 26, 2011, 02:00:41 PM »
From the HPC:
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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD
229 PM EST SAT NOV 26 2011
 
VALID 12Z TUE NOV 29 2011 - 12Z SAT DEC 03 2011
 
...TRANSITIONAL LONGWAVE PATTERN OVER THE LOWER 48 NEXT WEEK...

THE MEDIUM RANGE FORECAST BEGINS WITH A WESTERN RIDGE/EASTERN
TROUGH LONGWAVE CONFIGURATION. HOWEVER...THE LONGWAVE RIDGE MAY
RE-ESTABLISH ITSELF BACK ALONG 135W THE LATTER PART OF NEXT WEEK.
THIS IS FAR ENOUGH WEST TO FAVOR A RETROGRESSION OF THE DOWNSTREAM
TROUGH BACK TO THE PLAINS OR WESTERN STATES.
INDEED...12Z/26
DETERMINISITIC MODELS SHOW GOOD CONVERGENCE ON A SOLUTION THAT
DROPS ENERGY SOUTHWARD TO THE RIGHT OF THE BUILDING ERN PACIFIC
RIDGE ON WED DAY 4...SPINNING UP A FAIRLY VIGOROUS NEW UPPER LOW
OVER SRN PORTIONS OF CA/NV BY SUN EVE.
They seem to think the negative PNA will reestablish itself, at least for a time. (Hopefully a very short time.)
« Last Edit: November 27, 2011, 08:46:43 AM by JayCee »
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